Alagaesia Online Forums
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Can Riders Go Rogue!?

+9
Argetlam Tre
Fallen Elf
The Spaniard
paperclip
MINDROP
DarkNova317
Daiko
Durz
Alfreredocsil
13 posters

Page 1 of 3 1, 2, 3  Next

Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by Alfreredocsil Mon 20 Sep - 22:52:19

Can Riders Go Rogue!?
ChaoticMagic



Joined: 20 Sep 2010
Posts: 16
Posted: 20 Sep 2010 08:41 pm

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This seems to be a rather big topic on the AO Thread in the IF, so lets move it here before Mike gets on our butts again .

What do you all think?
Personally I think no to an extent. Oaths of fealty should be sworn in the AL. The longer they wait the more power they gain and the more secrets they get. Having this unleashed in a Renegade Rider would be horrible for all.




Sage of Dragon Age



Joined: 20 Sep 2010
Posts: 18
Location: The land of milk and honey! Posted: 20 Sep 2010 08:47 pm

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I Personally, I would say yes. It gives more freedom to the players.

Secondly, I think it would be kinda cool! It's what I would do if I made a "non-mod" account. Of course, I wouldnt be opposing the Order. i would just be my own person!




Fallen Elf



Joined: 20 Sep 2010
Posts: 16
Posted: 20 Sep 2010 08:52 pm

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I think of course you should be able to go Renegade. This is after all a game that pretty much has the storyline of what we do, meaning we can do a "Galbatorix and the Forsworn" saga, or a "Dark Times" saga, and etc.




ChaoticMagic



Joined: 20 Sep 2010
Posts: 16
Posted: 20 Sep 2010 08:54 pm

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sage, I think that its more likely that the Order may try to track you down before you get a chance to do your own thing .






Akla Tou Oavatou



Joined: 20 Sep 2010
Posts: 3
Location: You would like to know Posted: 20 Sep 2010 11:42 pm

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

That might happen but i think that as long as he doesn't do anything wrong there wont be a reason for him to be tracked down.




Sage of Dragon Age



Joined: 20 Sep 2010
Posts: 18
Location: The land of milk and honey! Posted: 20 Sep 2010 11:47 pm

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Akla Tou Oavatou wrote:
That might happen but i think that as long as he doesn't do anything wrong there wont be a reason for him to be tracked down.

I agree. My thoughts exactly!

But I dont think i'll have to worry about it anyways...i am a mod afterall...




DarkNova317



Joined: 20 Sep 2010
Posts: 3
Posted: 20 Sep 2010 11:58 pm

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Everyone takes the Galby example, but what about the rest of the forsworn? We know that at least one of them was an elf, and they were probably fully trained before switching over to the dark side, which is one of the reasons I think that we can go ROGUE whenever we want.
_________________
Nova
Leader of Du Ebirithils abr Sundavar!!

Alfreredocsil
Alfreredocsil
THE GOD OF THIS REALM
THE GOD OF THIS REALM

Gender : Male Posts : 1402
Join date : 2010-09-20
Age : 1513
Location : MO

https://alagaesiaonline.forumotion.com

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by Durz Mon 20 Sep - 23:49:52

It's only fair to say yes. How about, after a while of training with your dragon. You are asked to join the Order. If you say yes than you are forced to stay, if not then they can leave without any struggle and they aren't wanted or anything, WHATSOEVER! If they do nothing against the laws of the land than they stay that way, if they don't than they become wanted.
Durz
Durz
Lord of the Minions
Lord of the Minions

Gender : Male Posts : 1437
Join date : 2010-09-20
Age : 2000
Location : Great White North

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by Alfreredocsil Mon 20 Sep - 23:56:27

That sounds pretty good to me! Oh look I posted Spam!!!!!!! Thorin...pffftttt
Alfreredocsil
Alfreredocsil
THE GOD OF THIS REALM
THE GOD OF THIS REALM

Gender : Male Posts : 1402
Join date : 2010-09-20
Age : 1513
Location : MO

https://alagaesiaonline.forumotion.com

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by Durz Tue 21 Sep - 0:32:08

Hahaha, ya he was getting quite annoying with all his warnings.
Durz
Durz
Lord of the Minions
Lord of the Minions

Gender : Male Posts : 1437
Join date : 2010-09-20
Age : 2000
Location : Great White North

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by Alfreredocsil Tue 21 Sep - 0:46:40

Hahah, yeah, I never liked the guy anyway so....
Alfreredocsil
Alfreredocsil
THE GOD OF THIS REALM
THE GOD OF THIS REALM

Gender : Male Posts : 1402
Join date : 2010-09-20
Age : 1513
Location : MO

https://alagaesiaonline.forumotion.com

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by Daiko Tue 21 Sep - 0:51:30

I'm gonna hazard a guess and say that this guy isn't liked that much! Smile

Daiko
Mature Hatchling
Mature Hatchling

Gender : Male Posts : 81
Join date : 2010-09-20
Age : 30

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by DarkNova317 Tue 21 Sep - 18:06:55

Alright, I guess Durzasminion's idea is the best here. Any idea on how much less strong a rogue rider will be than the order riders? And will shades be stronger than rogue riders?

DarkNova317
Hatchling
Hatchling

Gender : Male Posts : 39
Join date : 2010-09-21

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by MINDROP Tue 21 Sep - 18:27:20

No idea. I think a rouge rider will be more powerful. However, if it is a shade and beast tamer, the shade wins.
MINDROP
MINDROP
SPARTAN GOD OF THIS REALM
SPARTAN GOD OF THIS REALM

Gender : Male Posts : 2969
Join date : 2010-09-20
Age : 751
Location : In my own little World, population: Me!

http://armstrong.team-talk.net/index.htm

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by paperclip Tue 21 Sep - 19:53:45

I think a shade should be close to a rogue rider but not equal. If the shade is a beast tamer that would put him above the rogue rider. However, full law abiding riders should be much more powerful than shades, even shades with beasts. A shade with a fanghur might be roughly equal in strength to a rider, but since the Order teaches them special secrets, the riders would have better technique/knowledge/whatnot.

paperclip
Egg
Egg

Posts : 10
Join date : 2010-09-21

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by DarkNova317 Tue 21 Sep - 20:32:18

A rider can also be a beast tamer, right? And rogue riders still have their dragon, which is like 4x all of your own stats... I think shades would be roughly equal to a strength when they have a beast, but if the rider has a beast and a dragon... That would be trouble for the shade.

DarkNova317
Hatchling
Hatchling

Gender : Male Posts : 39
Join date : 2010-09-21

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by Alfreredocsil Tue 21 Sep - 21:09:23

Well, you have to remember that we're talking in terms of very powerful characters at any rate so to say that a Shade/beast tamer will beat a rider is a little off. The Shade/beast tamer could potentially best the rider but then again who wins will depend on how the battle is fought and how each characters strengths are managed. The statistically weaker character could potentially win if the person weilding that character is skillful enough. So all this talk about which character can beat which is a bit subjective, each battle will be unique depending on the strategy of the players.
That said, don't expect to be a starter class craftsman and beat a shade. pale
Alfreredocsil
Alfreredocsil
THE GOD OF THIS REALM
THE GOD OF THIS REALM

Gender : Male Posts : 1402
Join date : 2010-09-20
Age : 1513
Location : MO

https://alagaesiaonline.forumotion.com

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by The Spaniard Wed 22 Sep - 10:32:27

All "Alpha" classes will be balanced, in the end the victor of a battle between them will all depend on who is more skilled
(by "Alpha" I mean top classes)
The Spaniard
The Spaniard
GAME WARDEN
GAME WARDEN

Gender : Male Posts : 448
Join date : 2010-09-20
Age : 31
Location : CA

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by Durz Thu 23 Sep - 1:10:51

I think that Riders should be extremely powerful, more powerful than a Shade/BeastMaster, even if its rouge. However, when it comes to Rouge Rider against Order Rider, Order Rider should win 90% of the time. If people choose to be in the Order, then they need to have a lot more benefits and strength than a Rouge. If not, it may not be enough difference between the two, and everyone will be Rouge.
Durz
Durz
Lord of the Minions
Lord of the Minions

Gender : Male Posts : 1437
Join date : 2010-09-20
Age : 2000
Location : Great White North

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by Daiko Thu 23 Sep - 3:49:34

The Balance between Good and Evil Riders should depend on their skill, not whether they stay in the Order or not. Because this way a Rouge Rider that had left after its full training would nearly always be defeated by a new Rider to the Order.. Just doesn't seem right.

Daiko
Mature Hatchling
Mature Hatchling

Gender : Male Posts : 81
Join date : 2010-09-20
Age : 30

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by MINDROP Thu 23 Sep - 8:57:19

Yes, Rouge Riders should statistically loose against order riders. However, if it is a high level rouge rider, and a lower level Orde Rider, Rouge Rider should win.

When we go for the scematics, it is based off the same XP, etc. Each character not having food, etc. But the fights will never be ballenced. These are more of trends, and even then, I do not like the word trends. It eally depends on skill more than anything.
MINDROP
MINDROP
SPARTAN GOD OF THIS REALM
SPARTAN GOD OF THIS REALM

Gender : Male Posts : 2969
Join date : 2010-09-20
Age : 751
Location : In my own little World, population: Me!

http://armstrong.team-talk.net/index.htm

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by Durz Thu 23 Sep - 12:33:16

@Daiko, we have to make Order riders tronger or else every rider will go Rouge.
Durz
Durz
Lord of the Minions
Lord of the Minions

Gender : Male Posts : 1437
Join date : 2010-09-20
Age : 2000
Location : Great White North

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by Fallen Elf Fri 24 Sep - 7:09:32

Yes, the order has to be stronger, but if it is a say...level 98 Rogue Rider against a level 59 Order rider, the advantage of the Order Rider is equalled with the level distance and whatnot.

Shades/beast tamers are special, they are able to change their beasts appearance to make them bigger and stronger.
Fallen Elf
Fallen Elf
The Fullmetal Alchemist
The Fullmetal Alchemist

Gender : Male Posts : 1355
Join date : 2010-09-23
Age : 1801
Location : Hidden, because I'm a NINJA!

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by Argetlam Tre Sun 3 Oct - 11:48:50

I dont know, i should think that the rogue riders should be able to learn dark magic or something, which would be a plus, but be weaker than an order rider who uses only good magic spells.
Argetlam Tre
Argetlam Tre
Premier Slayer
Premier Slayer

Gender : Male Posts : 181
Join date : 2010-10-03
Age : 29
Location : Austin, TX

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by Fallen Elf Sun 3 Oct - 12:20:54

Argetlam Tre wrote:I dont know, i should think that the rogue riders should be able to learn dark magic or something, which would be a plus, but be weaker than an order rider who uses only good magic spells.

Dark magic would be interesting to learn. Maybe there could be extremely hard quests that challenge even a very powerful order rider that have rewards that have to do with Dark magic. These quests could be S-class quests or something.
Fallen Elf
Fallen Elf
The Fullmetal Alchemist
The Fullmetal Alchemist

Gender : Male Posts : 1355
Join date : 2010-09-23
Age : 1801
Location : Hidden, because I'm a NINJA!

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by Durz Sun 3 Oct - 13:25:00

What does "S-Class mean"??
Durz
Durz
Lord of the Minions
Lord of the Minions

Gender : Male Posts : 1437
Join date : 2010-09-20
Age : 2000
Location : Great White North

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by Famoosh Sun 3 Oct - 14:44:04

Yeah riders gone rogue should have a definite disadvantage but not a huge one. If you let there be perks for staying in the order, not everyone will go rogue. And if they do, perks get taken away.
Famoosh
Famoosh
King
King

Gender : Male Posts : 631
Join date : 2010-10-02
Age : 70
Location : Earth's mantle

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by Durz Sun 3 Oct - 14:53:32

Agreed.
Durz
Durz
Lord of the Minions
Lord of the Minions

Gender : Male Posts : 1437
Join date : 2010-09-20
Age : 2000
Location : Great White North

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by The Spaniard Sun 3 Oct - 16:40:35

I haven't thought of all the perks of being an order rider but one is the ability to drain energy from your surroundings.

Order riders will have access to many powerful and useful skills while rogues will have to make due with what they learned
The Spaniard
The Spaniard
GAME WARDEN
GAME WARDEN

Gender : Male Posts : 448
Join date : 2010-09-20
Age : 31
Location : CA

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by Fallen Elf Sun 3 Oct - 16:56:49

Can't druids drain energy from their surroundings, though?
Fallen Elf
Fallen Elf
The Fullmetal Alchemist
The Fullmetal Alchemist

Gender : Male Posts : 1355
Join date : 2010-09-23
Age : 1801
Location : Hidden, because I'm a NINJA!

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by The Spaniard Sun 3 Oct - 17:00:06

Actually I haven't thought about that o.o
Possibly but i'm not too sure
The Spaniard
The Spaniard
GAME WARDEN
GAME WARDEN

Gender : Male Posts : 448
Join date : 2010-09-20
Age : 31
Location : CA

Back to top Go down

Can Riders Go Rogue!? Empty Re: Can Riders Go Rogue!?

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 1 of 3 1, 2, 3  Next

Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum